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Cement Tags

February 28, 2011
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Here is the interview with Alberto de Pedro, the photographer who has been following me while doing this cement tags serie:
These last months 3TTman left sprays and paint aside to promote cement. You could tell us why?
What gave me the idea first was to see a cement wall on which children had drawn their names, their declarations of love … when it was still fresh. It felt very raw and natural at the same time. Back in these days I was doing some big reforms in the studio and I was getting familiar with these workers technics, so I decided to apply it in the streets.

So your approach also refers to unconscious impulses of people who express themselves in the street?
Correct! I’m fascinated by these interventions in the street because they often reveal a more spontaneous expression and protest than when someone is consciously working in public space. Besides, I did the first text “Mañana día de huella General” after seeing the streets bombed of tags to promote a general strike. One had the impression that all the grandpas of the district went down to write their will on the walls.

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It was just the day before the strike. Can you explain us the meaning of this text.
At that point I decided to make my own campaign claims, that starts with the right to write in the street. Hence the pun between “Huella” (t: Print) and Huelga (t: Strike).

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The texts always refer to the specific context of working on the streets. You play very often with some antagonism in the message?
I want to give a touch of autocynisme to my work. I don’t like to impose myself too much when it comes to send a message or an opinion, I prefer to allow more freedom of interpretation to the viewer, that’s why I play on multiple readings. I also like that behind a primary aspect this hides a more subversive message.

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Why cement?
Graphically it is a technique that refers to instinctive graffiti, like the one that was picturing Brassaï in the 50th, I wanted to go back to the basics in a way. It also gives an artistic value to a technique that is considered as a working proletariat’s one, and i find that interesting.

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I guess it also deals with the longevity of the piece and the current situation in Madrid?
Sure, it adds a new variable to the typical Intrinsically rules of graffiti and it’s interesting to see how people will interact with that. Especially here in Madrid where both the antigraffiti brigades and writers are very active. Given the panorama, the cement seems to me a good technical issue concerning visibility and longevity of the piece. In addition the disguise of worker allows me to pass unnoticed from the police.

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In the so-called “street art” today, there are many things that are meaningless. What brings this technique?
The saturation of information that exists in the street today brings all those who use public space as a medium of communication (advertisers, graffiti writers, artists, architects, bill-poster…) to seek for more visibility at any cost. In addition to bring a bit of fresh blood, I find it interesting to think that such a rudimentary technique could have more visual impact than many marketing campaigns. And I think that’s the case.

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What kind of walls are you seeking for?
Brick walls of abandonned local or under construction ones…

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You even left a free expression’s wall. Tell us how that happened.
I was doing “Opinion sur rue”* in the prostitutes’s neighborhood when one of the girls asked me if she could sign. As surely as the girls were those who had the right to reclaim their lives in the neighborhood, I came back prepare them a Hall of Fame on the wall next door. We had a good time to seeing the girls drawing, at the beginning they were a little hesitant but after a while there was no way to stop them. In addition I like how the 2 walls work together.
* “Opinion sur rue” is a pun between Opinion on the street and the French expression “avoir Pignon sur rue” which roughly translates as “have a good place on the street”.

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These pieces of cement, would they have the same meaning if you had them done legaly?
There’s no need to have permission and it is precisely the fact that the technique allows you to work in the center without authorization that is good.

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Madrid has changed in 10 years, the streets are not as welcoming as before. You’ve had problems with the cement?
I started a piece in the Fuencarral’s street (very commercial street in Madrid), the police had gone several times by without noticing anything and when it just remained for me to write the council’s guys blew the whistle on me. At first they wanted to take me to the police, but I convinced them to remove the wet cement and let me go. We took the opportunity to do “No me gusta escribir en las paredes” (t: I don’t like to write on the walls. cit: May 68) on another 200 meters away spot.

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Almost all pieces have a size of 1.5 mx2m. How long will do you last?
Between the time I start doing the mix and I finish writing, 2 hours or something

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You’ve left the head of Calle Corredera for 6 months on the street, between tags and buffs it has gone through many phases. After that you’ve painted it. Is this the next step is color?
I think I’m done with the texts at the moment and it’s true that the desire to use this technique of drawing and color tickles me ..

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To finish with cement, what does that mean “Mas y menos arte obra” *?
It has two levels of reading, the first is that I myself am not even sure of which position I am in between the artist and the laborer when I do the cement thing … And the second is a critique to the world of art in general and all the show business surrounding it. Basically it means “Less waffle and more action!”
* Obra word has several meanings: Obra as a construction place or Obra as a piece of art.

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And the indoor works, how’s the sculpture I saw the other day in your studio going? It is finished?
It is over and I am making more of the same series. Besides, it makes me want to use the sculptures on the street.

Last year you were speaking with Eko about a future project in Vietnam. How did it go?
It has been an amazing experience both in human and professional aspects. I made several trips over there in 2010 to work the mosaic and ceramic in a small village. I kept good friends there and I go back in a month to continue to perfect the technique.

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